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Opt-in Share Usage Data option #3140
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Originally created by @c2xusnpq6 on GitHub (Oct 25, 2021).
I don’t see
Willing to share usage dataon the management page. Is this because of default sharing? Or?Because I want to contribute data to improve the overall user experience, thank you!
@ainar-g commented on GitHub (Oct 25, 2021):
Hello. AdGuard Home doesn't collect any usage data for AdGuard or any other third party. And if it would, it would obviously be off by default.
@ameshkov, is this something we want to consider for v1?
@c2xusnpq6 commented on GitHub (Oct 25, 2021):
I hope Adguard Home can display multiple related buttons, such as whether to send an anonymized IP message?
Is there any other data from the current server to be sent?
These are hoped that Adguard can be listed in detail and available for users to choose.
I also hope that this feature can support mobile and PC version, thank you!
Both PC and mobile version now only have "Agree to Share Usage Data" and "Disagree to Send Usage Data", but there is no detailed description of which data will be sent...
For software that claims to pay special attention to user privacy, this will not look good...
@ameshkov commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2021):
If there are enough people that are willing to share telemetry data (e.g. enough upvotes), we will consider adding this as an optional thing. But as @ainar-g said, we would only consider this only if this is OFF by default.
@c2xusnpq6 commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2021):
Totally agree! Disabled by default, data anonymization, how you would utilize it, etc.😃👍
@rodalpho commented on GitHub (Nov 1, 2021):
My feeling is the type of person who goes to the trouble to host his own adblocking DNS server on their LAN is the same type of dude who wouldn't turn on telemetry. I know I certainly wouldn't! But since you're on the side of the angels with it being opt-in, I'm all for it.
@c2xusnpq6 commented on GitHub (Nov 1, 2021):
You can see the
Optimized Versionbutton on AdGuard. It may contain80%or90%of the rules from the original version.But the question arises, how do you know which rules are commonly used? Which ones are not?
@c2xusnpq6 commented on GitHub (Nov 1, 2021):
@rodalpho
I hope they can handle the privacy issues properly.
@Disqu3-mirOir-qt commented on GitHub (Nov 1, 2021):
i agree i use adguard home on my owns server i don,t wan,t telemetry seem off , in this case or telemetry added i do it owns build with telemetry code part removed
@c2xusnpq6 commented on GitHub (Nov 1, 2021):
You may be concerned that those functions can be turned on remotely?
If this is the case, can you ask them to release a version without the associated tracking code for each new version?
The problem is solved~
@ameshkov commented on GitHub (Nov 2, 2021):
I don't think this is a valid concern. One can always validate that it works as it's said and cannot be enabled remotely since the code is open.
@Disqu3-mirOir-qt commented on GitHub (Nov 2, 2021):
not , i said if telemetey added i do my owns build adguardHome(go) with telemetry part removed
@rodalpho commented on GitHub (Nov 2, 2021):
Well, that's your prerogative. I have no problems with an opt-in telemetry switch. These metrics can be genuinely useful to improve software, they have a legitimate reason to exist.
Thing is, I personally wouldn't opt-in and I doubt many people who run this type of software would either. So it may not be worth their effort to implement.
@Disqu3-mirOir-qt commented on GitHub (Nov 2, 2021):
I agree with the telemetry in the friendly user software for example in the new server dns of adguard I have no problem, but on self-hosted software it loses all the interest to do self-hosting if I hosted adguardHome on my vps is not to have telemetry, adguard already has a github to improve their software,
I still prefer to pay a license / monthly subscription instead of telemetry
@c2xusnpq6 commented on GitHub (Nov 2, 2021):
@ainar-g @ameshkov or can you give users who are willing to share anonymous data the benefit of the doubt?
Anti-virus software is also this way to collect more virus data, there is a limited use of the free version?
The beta and nightly version will more obviously prompt users to share anonymous data or not?
@ameshkov commented on GitHub (Nov 3, 2021):
Hey all, as I've said, we'll only consider implementing this if there are enough people voting for this feature request.
@Disqu3-mirOir-qt commented on GitHub (Nov 3, 2021):
anti-virus software is easy to install, no anti-virus software (e.g. maybe clamAV) have a self-hosting system
anonymous data is a marketing term to give an impression of trust , reverse data when data big easy
https://gizmodo.com/researchers-reveal-that-anonymized-data-is-easy-to-reve-1836629166
@c2xusnpq6 commented on GitHub (Nov 3, 2021):
So what you're saying is that they need to ensure complete security to do so?
You need them to move the head office to Switzerland? Like Kaspersky did?🤔😃👍
@rodalpho commented on GitHub (Nov 7, 2021):
I agree the concept of an anonymous user is flat-out incorrect, as even when tagged to a generic UUID that data can be correlated with other activity to track down your true identity. However, it's possible to collect data truly anonymously via differential privacy, where data is aggregated such that you can't point to any individual user's activity, even an "anonymous" user. These algorithms can be mathematically proven and are an interesting rabbit hole to explore academically, but I can't imagine Adguard would go to the trouble to implement them.
Anyway, if the devs don't see immediate value to collecting telemetry then obviously they shouldn't add it, even as opt-in. Why generate work for no reason? Add a dark mode theme instead!
@IRainman commented on GitHub (May 11, 2023):
I hopefully share my data from this setup #5819 , because it's a beautiful test case for memory corruption or race conditions.